Why would anyone say No Mohammad and No Mecca? what would it mean? that there was no man called Mohammed or no place called Mecca? But thats ridiculous..why would anyone say something stupid like that.. Mohammed and Mecca are historical and geographical truths.. What else could it mean?
hmm that is ridiculous...well we all kno Mohammed (sm) and Mecca are the universal truth...i think their purpose behind it was to sabotage the coke company...they are trying to convince muslims that coke company has misuse their logo...they don want muslims to say no to Muhammed (sm)..they want to say them to say no to coke by making a issue of arabic letters...
ahsoley to manusher mathay ekhon dhuklo aey kothata!!coke company to ar notun na...etodin por tader protest korar kheyal hoise...
Addiction was never an issue.. because if you call not being able to live without something an addiction then eating rice is also an addictive behaviour of Bangalis because many of them cant live without eating rice everyday..
well smokinger bepare sure na but amar mone hoy addiciton issue ase
tai alcohol ke islam religione haram kora hoise...karon alcohol addicted
houar por sheta manusher jonno harmful hoye daray...psychological theke shuru kore many health problem do appear...aey karone sheta ke haram declared kora hoise...ar dekha jay islame oishob kisui haram jeta manusher
khoti kore...and as far as getting addicted to rice..it doesn't harm people
they eat it because of the body needs..
Addiction er issue nei.. and alcohol addiction is only seen in extreme cases.. Alcohol is banned because it affects your thought process.. seta apni month e ekbar khan aar protidin 3 bar khan.. if you drink, you get high and loose your rationality.. that is what was banned in Islam.. ciggarette does no such thing.. infact it actually helps the brain perform at a higher efficiency.. if you want to know more about that then id explain that in another place.. i think i might have wrote something about that in this forum earlier..
Rice is not what your body needs as an essential food.. there are plenty of other food choices that would make you healthier..and rice is a lot more fattening and dangerous because it is more fattening, is consumed in extremely high amounts and burns quite slowly and thus increases the chance of getting heartblocks compared to other stuff like wheat and potatoes.. the whole point is that addiction to a certain kind of product was not the issue..the issue is if that product affects your rationality or not..because alcohol was allowed for muslims for a long time before it finally got banned..and as far as the health problems related to alcohol is concerned, having a small amount of alcohol routinely actually does good for your body but that is haram too in Islam.. so clearly the health issue is not the main one..
Well, though smoking is not the prime issue of this topic, still it got a lot of attention. I guess as one of the smoker felt attacked... [
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Anyways - the Coca Cola story - I didn't even get any interest to see the link. If someone wants to scold me in some alien language - I don't mind as long as I don't understand the meaning. So if any one wants to show their grudge against Islam - and we muslims don't understand it - let them be happy with there childish deeds.
And about the smoking controversy - well, there is no direct verse in the Quran or no authentic Narration from Rasulallah (SW) about it. But now a days, when we know that smoking is fatal for health and as well as for the environment - now Alems are saying that smoking is haram. Because Allah says in Sura Baqara [chapter:2] Ayah 135 -
"And do not throw yourselves into destructions"
Also now medical science tells us that smoking causes cancel which kills and specially affects the passive smokers. Allah says in Surah Al-Aara'f [chatper 7] Ayah 157 that -
"He (the Prophet Muhammed) allows them all that is good and lawful, and prohibits them as unlawful all that is evil."
Smoking is a Killer: It causes diseases like lung cancer, tuberculosis and heart diseases (just to mention a few). And we know that Allah forbids us from killing ourselves. As He says: ""And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire and that is easy for Allah"" {Surah an-Nisaa’’ (4): 29}
Allah also says: ""And do not throw yourselves into destruction."" {Surah al-Baqarah (2):195
Smoking burns(waste) wealth: And Allah says: ""But spend not wastefully (your wealth) in the manner of a spendthrift. Verily spendthrifts are brothers of the devils." {Surah al-Israa’’ (17) 26-27}
So, now its upto the smokers.
Anyways - the Coca Cola story - I didn't even get any interest to see the link. If someone wants to scold me in some alien language - I don't mind as long as I don't understand the meaning. So if any one wants to show their grudge against Islam - and we muslims don't understand it - let them be happy with there childish deeds.
And about the smoking controversy - well, there is no direct verse in the Quran or no authentic Narration from Rasulallah (SW) about it. But now a days, when we know that smoking is fatal for health and as well as for the environment - now Alems are saying that smoking is haram. Because Allah says in Sura Baqara [chapter:2] Ayah 135 -
"And do not throw yourselves into destructions"
Allah also says: ""And do not throw yourselves into destruction."" {Surah al-Baqarah (2):195
Well refer to the cocacola story, it was done more to sabotage the coke company than pointing out towards the muslims...the issue of islam was attached to it smartly to make it more effective..In thez days the issue of muslims are on trendz....international eyes are on them...what ever they do becomes an issue...therefore, the player have hunted two bird thru one stone..Sabotaging the coke company through the muslims....I dont know what to say if it was done by muslims people against coke company but if its done by other religious group then they have just used muslims religion..then they can tell to the world oh see wat thez muslims people are doing...
Now refer to the smoking as u mention Nirjon Shakkor, ami o jantam je Allah Pak oi shob kisukei haram korechen jegulo manusher jonne khotikor....you have already provided the quote...
This would be my last off-topic post in this thread.. we can continue the arguement in another thread.. if you search, you should find a thread regarding smoking in here somewhere..
As far as the wastefulness is concidered, its definition varies from one person to another.. so what seems wasteful to you is not necessarily wasteful to the smoker..i find buying 5 pairs of shoes wasteful but its not necessarily the case..now to go to the quotes..
"He (the Prophet Muhammed) allows them all that is good and lawful, and prohibits them as unlawful all that is evil."
How smoking qualifies as evil is something id be pondering for the rest of my life.. the world has to be made as wide as the whole world to put stuff like smoking under its covering area..its as simple as that.. one man smoking by himself without letting his passive smoke bothering others should not qualify as evil.. not by any means..
""And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire and that is easy for Allah"" {Surah an-Nisaa’’ (4): 29}
Through aggression and injustice.. nothing was mentioned about a habit of yours that is not the most healthiest in the world..there are lots of things that we do that are slowly killing us.. breathing in the polluted city air is one of them.. we could easily move but hey thats not an option.. similarly its not an option for the smoker to quit it that easily.. he isnt smoking to die so as far as intentions and motives are concerned it cant be regarded in the same manner as putting one's self to death through aggression and injustice..so i think assuming that Allah has made smoking haram is a big assumption indeed because smoking was a normal practice at that time and id have expected a similar statement about that like Allah has given us for alcohol..
As for smoking causing the diseases its not a valid statement.. its more proper to say it increases the chances of you getting those diseases.. theres plenty of example of non-smokers getting the same diseases and chain-smokers living a healthy life.. i know a few of that variety..
Having said all that id just like to point out why im discussing about this here.. firstly cuz i feel both of you are rational human beings and an intellectual arguement with you should be refreshing and enlightening for all of us.. and also because i dont like the way non-smokers try to pass the judgement on smoking without knowing exactly why ppl do it..ppl dont buy a ciggarette with 4 taka and burn it just to look cool you know, it helps their brains function at a higher level of electricity and thats a proven fact.. so its not easy to understand why they do it or dont want to quit it.. theres a famous quote, by one of the smokers, that i cherish.. "I love non-smokers but i hate anti-smokers"..its your choice not to do it.. but to tell others to not do it is something you can only achieve when you have done it and stopped.. or atleast that makes it more credible.. thats maybe why the few ppl i have ever known to successfully quit smoking has never advised me to quit because they know its only possible in extreme cases and not always does one have those cases..
More power to you non-smokers..