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Boyoshkora majhe majhe bolen: “polapaner desh prem nai. Tara bideshe chole jachhe khali…etc etc…”

Ami gotokalo amader colleague Dr Jahangir Alam sir-er shathe alap korchhilam e bepare. He has been a university teacher in Sweden for long…he said: eta niye Sweden-e Bangalee der moddhe hatahati porjonto hoye gechhe ekbar.

He said: DESHPREMIK word ta ki relative na? Khali juddho korlei deshpremik, tachhara na—eta ki acceptable?

Muktijoddhao jemon deshpremik, temni muktijuddho jei chheleta tiffin-carrier kore arms pouchhe ditto muktijoddha der, shoe deshpremik. Juddho kore ni, kintu mone prane dowa korechhe desh jeno hanadar-mukto hoy—amon manusho deshpremik.

Bideshe chole gele karo desh prem ki kome jaye? Bideshe giyeo manushjon desher jonno kaj korchhe na? Taka pathano theke shuru kore Bangla potrika/Bangla TV channel chalano, shahitto shommelon ayojon—erokom hajaro kaj tara korchhe keno? Desher proti bhalobashaye na ki? Tachhar je manushta bidesh jawar shomalochona korchhen, given a chance, he will flee as well.

Dr Jahangir THEN TOLD ME: See, eto jhamelaye na giye amra shohoj bhabe beparta dekhi.

He categorized THREE types of people in this regard. And he said, Ei  tin criteria-r alokei amader present Bangladeshi der jabotiyo bhalo-mondo activity ke judge kore bujte hobe—shobar DESHPREM ki obosthaye achhe:


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[1] Category one (actionist):JARA DESHER BHALOR JONNO CHINTA KORE, KAJ KORE.

(Social reformers and activists falls under this)  

[2] Category two (neutral and inactionist): JARA DESHER KHOTI KORE NA, KHARAP KICHHU CHINTAO KORE NA.

(Maximum common people like us fall under this)

[3] Category three (actionist):JARA DESHER BHALO CHAYE NA, DESHER KHOTI KORE NANA BHABE.

(All shadhinota birodhi razakar falls under this)
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Dr Jahangir said: Amar mote prothom 2 category-r manush deshpremik.


Ami eta ejonnoi tule dilam ekhane: let Boshonto members judge and brainstorm this issue. All are welcome to give good-bad feedbacks.

Dekha jak, DESHPREM bolte ashole ei muhurte ki bujhano uchit.
b4 my feedback...bhayya i wanna ask..after "patroitism anD we" why this post needed to b in a different thread???
whts the different???

if u 4got about tht thread..here is ur link...
http://www.boshonto.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2550

after ur reply... min i will give u a feedback...anD a good one i promise.Wink
Amar ei thread ta niye hoyo karo karo mone hote pare—eta nehati repetition..

Ashole kintu ta na. Bortoman context-e bishoyta arektu bhebe discuss-debate korara jonnoi ei new thread. Let me explain.

[ONE]

Awnek deshei ekhon NATION-STATE er concept er aloke deshprem bekkha kora hoy.  India jemon. ‘WE ARE INDIANS’ bole ekta idea sharakkhon advertisement, film, tv show—shobkane arop kora hoy. Keno? Coz, multicultural, multilingual Indian der kachhe Indian-ness er cheyeo regionalism awnek boro bepar. Tader ekta umbrellar niche ante, tader motivate korte ekta SCALE OF PATRIOTICM doekar—ar shetai “concept” akare eshechhe ebhabe: WE ARE INDIANS. Kinba VANDE MATARAM.

Interestingly, INDIAN ness er ei concept er aotaye kintu keu keu baad jachhe—North East ppl, ar Kashmiri Muslims. Eder deshprem niye borabori doubt kora hoy…dhorei new ahoy, tara India ke bhalobashte parena…tara separatist.

Eta kibhabe decided holo? Kobe theke? Kara korlo? Kibhabe etai ekta popular perception hoye gelo?

Taholei dekha jachhe: deshprem ekta relative bepar. WE vs OTHERS issue tai ashe chole. Mane: “Ami thik korbo ke deshpremik and keno.”

‘Bangladeshi Nation’ concept joto strong hochhe, totoi India-r moto bepar ghota shuru hochhe. Eta khubi common je if u want to sat Bangalee, then ur patriotism can be questioned. Abar if u want to get above Bangladeshiness and think of GLOBAL CITIZEN concept, u face the same fate. Keno???


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1971 jara dekhani, kichhui janena, tara je deshpremik hote parena, ta ki thik? Abar 1971-e juddho koreo pore nana opokormo kore property banano manush ta keno “deshpremik” thakbe?

[THREE]

Amader kono soldier desher jonno juddho kore mara gele he is given “rashtriyo morjadaye dafon”. Justified.

Dhori, shei eki soldier UN mission e Haiti gelo…tarpor road accident e mara gelo. Still he will get “rashtriyo morjadaye dafon”. He will be termed as “desher much ujjol kora soldier.”

Proshno holo, ekhetre to he died in an accident—tao desher jonno serve korte giye na. He was there as a duty of UN Mission—tar loyalty to UN er proti. Thaole kibhabe she “deshprem”-er kaj korlo?  

By the way, amar army friend-der kachhe shuni, shobai UN mission e jete chaye “to earn lot of money” and shetar jonno lobbying hoy. Tahole dekha jaye, UN mission e jawatar moddheo economy plays the role.)

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Ebhabe awnek points rais ekora jaye, In fact, in our yesterday adda among colleagues, eta niye nana mukhi alap hoy and eventually dekhlam, khubi “interestingly complicated” issue. Deshprem shobdo ta joto easy shunte, decide kora million times kothin.

Tai I wanted to put it here as a new thread and invite all your valuable feedback. Ekta jaygaye reach kora jaye kina, let’s see.


U can say, this thread is a clearer and deeper version of that patriotism thread.

EKi jinish niye ghure phire alochona nanabhabe to ashbei--coz human society to limited jinish niyei deal kore..as long as the solution doesn't come, tai na?

So start ur feedbacks....
UN mission ey jei shoinik ta mara jacchen tini tar dayitto palonkaley mara jachchen. kono furti kortey giye na. so he deserves a state funeral as he was representing his country while he died. Ivory Coast ey jei 6 jon mara gelo...apni ki tader state funeral er bipokhkhey? kheyal korey dekhben UN MISSION er protita Bangladeshi Soldier er Bahutey shobha pay laal shobuj potaka ti.


regarding UN missions...yes! money plays a big role. karon shamorik officer ebong shoinik der extra income er shujog nei. shomoy o nei. so army HQ decided to rotate officers and soildiers so that as much possible soldier and officer can go to UN mission as possible. kintu kotha holo...shekhaney ki desher kichchu khoroch hochchey? NA. Labh Hochchey? HA!................kibhabey? karon protiti Armed forces member jara UN mission ey jay tara tader salary (UN SALARY) purata payna. rather besh boro ongsho shorkari koshagarey joma porey. infact more than 40%. but sheta niye to money hoyna keu uchchobachcho koren. karon ki? karon aykor faki deoa ekhon ekta tradition...shekhaney direct aykor ta kinchit bemanan. infact obishshashsho. kintu tai hochchey. bortomane Bangladesh Army one of the most productive sector. lolz. karon UN force er shob chaitey beshi soldier is from Bangladesh. orthat beshir bhag UN soldier Bangladeshi.

arekta kotha holo, UN mission ey giye BD army is bringing back Military Hardewares for free. ja kina hoyto amader porey kintey hoto. taholey ki bola jay na je UN mission ey BD army er bhumika kihchuta holeo amader economy ke shahajjo korchchey?

the end  is.......Every Soldier Who Dies in uniform deserves a Sate Funeral. karon desher jonno mrittu boroner dash khot amra likhini...kintu tara likhey diyechchen.
offtopic: regarding UN mission i agree with what misho bhai said...

personally ami o bisshash kori tara okane Bangladesh kei represent korche...& they do deserve state funeral...sowdagori korte jeye (well amr nanu amake showdagor e dhake Smile ) onek African er sathe amr porichoe hoyeche...tader majhe ache Ivory Coast, Somalia theke asha lukjon o...jokon tara jane je i'm from bangladesh tader mukhta ujjol hoye uthe..."Bangladeshh..ooh i have so many bangladeshi frnds over thr"...even tara amr sathe tuki taki bangla kothao bole...emoni ekta conversation ami grameen Bank thread e likchi o..

besides onekei hoetu janben...Somalia te bangla 2nd official language...not English...Bengali...surely tht means a lott...

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