correct asif bhai. ar major dalim was retired when he did what he did. faruk and other persons were there just because of personal reasosn as like dalim.
ar ei jatio cu de ta to UK teo hoise, cromwell killed king george I. thats why here army is not royal army where as navy and airforce are royal navy and royal airforce.
ar zia er bepar ta ekhono rohoshshey dhaka. tobey ja ja porsi money hoyna gen, monjur was guilty. as a senior officer and a responsible commander he took his subordinates guilts so that others may survive. i strongly feel that gen monjur should be re-evaluated.
btw...i am a military history buff. so anythinhg regarding military history u can ask me. i specialize in second world war and wars in indian sub-continent. which obviously includes 71.
To Misho,
You've spent night after night with indigents, good. Bengalipremik!!!!
Have you ever asked them how they feel about this nation? If any of them gets a UK or atleast Malaysian Visa, will they still decide to live here? have u ever asked what are the expectation from the govt? Did you ever thought about what is the future of them. If u love your country that much, then why are u in the UK? And infact why the UK ppl don't even know the name of BNG? All of the world knows about Malaysia, Vietnaam. Is our independence very much after these nations? Have u seen any progress of Bengalis over the time? did the condition of the poor ppl ameliorated or excerbated? I give u the answers:
1) THEY FEEL THAT IT WAS MISTAKE THAT THEY'VE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY.
2) THEY WILL LEAVE THIS FUCKHEAD NATION THEN AND THERE. EVEN THEY HAVE TO WORK AS A LABOUR. DOESN'T MATTER. CAUSE THIS COUNTRY HAS SUCH A LIMITED WORKFIELD THAT IT'S HARD TO SUSTAIN.
3) THEY EXPECT NOTHING FROM GOVT. CAUSE THEY ALL KNOW NOTHING CAN INFACT BE EXPECTED. IF THE GOVT. HAS ANY OTHER INTENTION INSTEAD OF CORRUPTION, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE PLACE OF MALAYSIAN POOR PPL. ATLEAST LEADING A LIFE OF A LOW MID CLASS OF OUR SOCIETY.
4) THEY SEE NO FUTURE OF THEM IN BNG. INFACT NONE OF US SEE ANYTHING SHINING, THAT'S WHY WE ALL ARE SCATTERED AROUND THE WORLD AND ALL OF US TRYING HARD TO DITCH THE COUNTRY. AND NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT BNG BECAUSE BNG HAS ACHIEVED NOTHING BUT AT THE SAME TIME MALAYSIA (THAT GOT INDEPENDENCE IN '67) IS NOW WORLD KNOWN.
5) AND THE CONDITION OF WHOLE BNG IS GETTING BAD TO WORSE WITH EVERY TICK OF THE CLOCK. ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY ALL.
And you know that statistics are alwasys with my viewpoints.
Ahh... eimatro dulabhaire phone ashlo, kije bhalo lagtese........
Just spending nights with indigents doesn't make a country great.
I hope u got the logics digested. That's what bengalis are.
The good qualities of us is that We are amicable to strangers. We've a greater sense of family ties, respect and responsibilites. But these are just side qualities. If an intelligent student doesn't come prepared in the exam he is sure to fail, and at the end what matteres is the result and he will then be thrown out of consideration. I hope u got my analogy.
And to Asif bhai....
The only person I think used some brain to my post is Naheeeeeeen. I thank and respect her for that. I just told that girls are just bit more careless or indiscreet about these serious ideas. But my inherent belief is As a human being girls are more superior than males. Cause they have a broader heart and mind to accept and sustain any injustice imposed on them. They are more tolerant than males. So i hope Naheeeeen understands.
Thanx
my dear brother _asif,
u did not get my point. any way amar money hoyna kokhonoi tumi ta parba. ami UK te ashchchi porashona shesh korty. abar fireo jabo. amar kichchu kaaj kortey hobey shei jonnoi ashchchi kaaj shikhgtey. thats all. ar kaaj gulo deshei korbo.
for ur very much kind info. ppl living under poverty line will definitely go abroad to earn but they wont settle. trust me. i saw ppl working their butts off and sending back almost all of their earnings back home. and i never heard them saying "bangalee jati tarey dhongsho koira deoa uchit". they were upset , they were fraustrated but they never said anything u said. so buddy buzz offffffffffff.
I agree with Asif that there is still no future in Bangladesh. and we don't even have to feel proud of it. So lets forget the independence, only remember what our people did then and respect it in our heart not in some seminar or meeting. And we have to create such enviroment in our country that everybody will respect us.
I know it is hard to do, to change all the Bangladesh. But it is definitely possible not to violate the law which the government made. I am not telling you, Asif to stay in this country, miserable which you think, and it may actually be indeed but you can atleast help this country staying abroad. Think about the chinese. In every modern country there is a chinatown, in Singapore there is Sarangoon road which is majorly indian inhabited. So if you want to stay abroad then try to make a place like Bangla town.
Your name implies that you are a Muslim. But where present situation concerns, will you convert to another religion? You won't. So you cannot deny that you are a Muslim and finally, You will curse those Jongis and pray to be eradicated. So pray that the people who made this country miserable may purged.
How many '71s we may have, it is never going to change the nation. and it is a way of losing good bloods. We must hope for such a war where bad blood may be eliminated.
to _asif :
aagei bolsi kisui boaar nai .. ami jani tumi konodin bujhbaa na ..
kono din bujhaar cheshtaa korbaa na ..
amader desher oboshta khb kharaap .. amra khub pocha ..
kaalke jodi india eshe amaader desh dokhol korte chay ..
amaar baba'r buke paraa diye daat ber kore haashte chay ..
tumi kisui korbaa na .. malaysia te boshe chaa khete khete bolbaa .. " i don giv a damn .. do hell with bangali ."
tomaar moto public der kisu bolaar nai ..
amraa khub pocha to .. amader uchit tomaar moto bhalo manush gulaa ke ber kore kathhal gachher shete bedhe pitay chhal ber kora ..
desher onek shomoshya ase .. amra boli na as a nation amra khub bhalo .. shei daabi korar joggotao hoyto amraa rakhi na .. but tai bole amraa tomaar moto ato frustration e bhugi na ..
desher jonno ki kora uchit thread taate mone hoy tumi bolechhile desher jei obostha .. desher jonno kichhu na kore nijer earned money niye shaanti te thaka uchit ..
huh .. u have my sympathy .. kono shomoshya nai .. do hell with your money .. deshke niye tomaake bhaabte hobe na .. malaysia tei araame thaako .. but amaar desh joto kharaap kaaj e koruk na keno .. durnitite jotoboro champion e hok na kano .. aage dehser jonno kichu korar cheshta koro .. tarpor na hoy tomaar bolaar odhikaar thaakbe deshke ar desher manushke gali debaar ..
amraa jara desher kharap incidentgulaa niye concerned .. tara deshke niye kotha boli desher jonno kichhu korte chai bole .. desher jonno kichhu korte onnoke inspired korte chai bole .. tomaar moto desher proti amader ghrina nei .. dukhyo thaakte paare .. hotashaa thakte paare .. but afsos nei, amra shopno ke puji kore baachte chai .. bangali hoye jokhon keu jokhon ei chhoto shopno gulo ke niye tamasha kore .. icCha kore tokhon taader daat bhenge dite .. ar ami chai na tumi taader modhye ekjon how ..
offensive ei post tar por negetive reputation kheye hoyto amaar obosthao tomaar moto laltoo hoye jaabe .. still i dont give a damn ..
seriously i have my sympathy for u ..
ghrina ta jokhon limit chhariye jay .. sympathy chhara ami ar kichhy khuje pai na shekhaane ..
bhalo kotha .. deshke niye tumi ja ja bolechho tar shobi true ..
but tartporo eta tomaar desh .. u may deny it .. i cant ..
yes, atif i agree je amader desher obosta ekhon kharap. but at the same time i do feel proud to be a bangladeshi. karon proud feel korar moto onek kichchui achche amader. ekhon kharap ta chokhey beshi porchchey boley lojja pabar kichchu nei. borong cheshta kora uchit ei obosta poribortoner. ebhabei shombhob bangladesher unnoti.
but tomar ki money hoy ....bangladesher kono kisu hobena ei jatio attitude niye boshey thakley hobey? money to hoy na. onnanno desh dekho. poland for example. world er onnotomo durnitigrosto desh theke ajkey tara east europe er 1 of da prominent country.
ar durniti er kotha bolley prothomei boltey hoy je transperancy international er todonto niye amar onek proshno achchey. columbia ar mexico ke amra kono motei pichche feltey parina. eta shombhob na. amar porashonar jonnoi oui dui desh niye amar kichchuta ghataghati kortey hoyechchey. ar transperncy international to 90% office ei dhukte pare nai. how come they judge by 10%. ar amake arekta desh dekhao jara transperncy international er kotha mathay rekhey bangladesher shathey shomporko rakhchchey.
beshi durey na myanmar er dikei takao. shekhane primary 5 for living ekhono military junta er haatey. jonogoner kontho nai. vote nai. kono international aid oder shadharon manush er kachche pouchay na. shei myanmar koi durnitir talikay?
as for another 71....no we dont need another 71. we need a solid revolution of honesty.